Carol Sarler a Freelance Journalist on Wed 20th Nov, Hits Out at Cry Silent Tears and other memoirs!!
written by the Bitchy & Narrow Minded Carol Sarler above !! (Freelance Journalist)
I’ll tell you what’s Ugly … this shameful appetite for misery porn
Carol Sarler is a freelance writer and broadcaster as well as a loud mouth, uneducated twit that writes nothing but crap and doesn’t think before she writes her columns! A pure and total show off that is trying to make a name for herself in the world of the media! She also likes to write about the same old boring crap in the Guardian (what I thought was a respected paper), not to mention the other newspapers she freelances for. Why on earth are editors letting her write about same old crap day in and day out? Currently her favourite subject is attacking victims of child abuse and their Memoirs.
Carol we get the message you have got a bee in your bonnet! - Who gives a shit what you have to say. OMG I don’t know why on earth I am giving you so much coverage on my blog. Here you can be known as the loud mouth, you really don’t know when to give your mouth a rest!
Please feel free and e-mail this bitchy loud mouth
By Carol Sarler
Memoir: the autobiography of Constance Briscoe
Whatever the outcome or merits of the case, the sight of a mother and daughter feuding so bitterly that they end up on opposite sides of a courtroom, unable even to look each other in the eye, is - to use the word advisedly - ugly.
Ugly is also the name of the autobiography of Constance Briscoe, a highflying barrister and part-time judge, in which she alleged that she was abused as a child, assaulted by a stepfather and beaten by an unloving mother who repeatedly criticised her looks.
Indeed, in a sequel she called Beyond Ugly, Ms Briscoe described the lengths to which she has gone not to be considered ‘ugly’ any more.
These included having costly cosmetic surgery to narrow and straighten her nose and to make her lips thinner - all in an effort to escape the self-loathing she attributes to her mother.
Her mother, however, says that none of it ever happened. Now she is suing her daughter for libel.
So it is that we, along with the jury at London’s High Court, will spend the next ten days watching and listening as allegation and counter-allegation fly between two women who, in a better world, would be relishing the traditional closeness of their relationship.
The wider point, of course, is not about the truth of what was written, but rather that whatever one relative says about another, it would never have become a public - let alone legal - matter, unless a publisher had known that there was a market for every hurtful titbit.
And, goodness knows, there is.
Misery porn: A literary feast for the decade
Misery porn is becoming quite the literary feast of the decade. Nobody’s childhood is any longer to be recollected through a prism of rosy contentment.
Don’t even think about happy days when the earth and every common sight ‘to me did seem apparelled in celestial light’, as Wordsworth put it. That old stuff? That’s for wimps.
These days, only the most harrowing of memories make it to the bestseller list. Let’s take just five, in this year alone.
Not Without My Sister: The True Story Of Three Girls Violated And Betrayed By Those They Trusted… The Silent Boy: He Was A Frightened Boy Who Refused to Speak… Hidden: Betrayed, Exploited And Forgotten, How One Boy Overcame The Odds … Tell Me Why, Mummy: A Little Boy’s Struggle to Survive … Cry Silent Tears: The Heartbreaking Survival Story Of A Small Mute Boy.
You could weep your way through the titles alone. Yet these books have already sold, on average, well over 100,000 copies each, presumably to people prepared to elicit entertainment - for that is, after all, what a book is generally for - out of the agonies of children they never did and never will meet.
Sometimes misery porn comes pretty close to common porn. In a single week last year, the top ten paperbacks invited you to enter the world of Don’t Tell Mummy (a number one bestseller), Betrayed (’a memoir of child abuse’, in which a girl accuses both her parents of sexual assault) and Silent Sisters (siblings on surviving abuse).
Meanwhile, the hardbacks put up their own fight with Our Little Secret (’boy molested from age of four’), Damaged (’involving a sickening paedophile ring’), and Daddy’s Little Girl . . . oh, I really can’t be bothered. In any case, you’ve guessed already, haven’t you?
I do not suppose for a moment that the vast majority of the purchasers of such books are themselves able, willing or prepared to damage a child, sexually or otherwise.
Indeed, they probably have all sorts of excuses why they read them: that they seek ‘greater understanding’, for example. That they are interested in the psychology or the sociology or some other ology of the human spirit.
But textbooks are for the schoolroom or the college library - these books are pored over on beaches and buses and trains, with an enthusiasm that veers between the dangerously obsessive and the plain grubby.
And which, either way, amounts to a further abuse of sorts.
It has always seemed to me that for an adult reader to enjoy any kind of frisson - even the starched thrill of disapproval - from the suffering endured by the authors of these memoirs is abhorrent.
The fact that the child in question is now an adult and seeking to make a few bob out of old abuse is neither here nor there; to say they freely chose to write it is on a moral par with saying of a damaged kid who ends up a hooker: well, she’s happy to sell, so what’s wrong with me buying?
It is surely an abuse, also, of any child who may see these books in shops and airports - even lying around at home.
We should not underestimate what it means for them to see, over and over, lurid titles of ’sickening’ accounts of childhood, ’suffering’ and ‘molestation’ - for how can it do other than teach them that pain, injury and assault on their small bodies might be a source of grown-up titillation?
Not to mention making it seem more commonplace than it is.
Most of all, is it not also unfair to the parents in the stories? Described, as they always seem to be, as perpetrators of the worst kinds, they are laid bare to the world - but, nine times out of ten, they are unable to defend themselves because they are safely out of the way. Or, to put it another way, dead.
Kathy O’Beirne’s 2005 memoir, Don’t Ever Tell: Kathy’s Story (it sold 400,000 copies and starred a ‘torturer’ father), was challenged by her family - as Constance Briscoe’s account now is.
By and large, however, such memoirs are one person’s memory of what happened a long time ago.
And while there isn’t cause to believe in any particular error, perhaps one person’s ’strict but fair’ is another person’s ‘brutal’.
For the dead, unable to answer back, and for those who might otherwise remember them fondly, the undefended trashing of their memory is the ultimate posthumous insult.
Let us, by all means, expose the real barbarians - few and far between as I think they will be.
At the same time, however, we might do ourselves and our children more good to push vicarious prurience to one side and remember that for every parent like, say, Baby P’s mother, there are a million others who would give their lives before they would harm a hair on their child’s head.
We parents, God knows, get it wrong. Sometimes.
But it would be nice, and very probably true, to say that most of us nevertheless deserve to be remembered with the gracious words used by Lorna Luft when asked about her hopeless, addled and addicted mother, Judy Garland.
‘She was’, said Miss Luft carefully, ‘the best mother she knew how to be.’ Amen to that.
Joe Peters Says:-
I don’t force anyone to read my books or buy it for that matter of fact, Carol Sarler you live in day dream wake up and smell the roses, who gives a damn what you have to say. Some stuck up Journalist that hasn’t got a clue!!! Only if you knew what child abuse is, i feel sorry for you!. (I guess we are all liars, get over it you naive idiot)
Comment by Louise:-
Hi Joe
I have been enraged about the case of baby ‘P’ (wish I knew his name)I am equally enraged about the lack of reality shown with regards to survivors of abuse, that we have experience and knowledge that could help so many others as you do, not without a fight I know. The papers have been full of social services trying to justify their failings in this case and the other day I read an article in the Daily Mail that made my blood boil….. This may be of interest to you as your book was used as an example this is my posting on my blog…
In strong response referring to the article written by Carol Sarler in the Daily Mail on Wed 20th Nov, ‘I’ll tell what’s ugly… this shameful appetite for misery porn’
Can I firstly say this is Child abuse she is talking about not porn! As there are thousands of victims of child abuse suffering right now as we read the paper, there are also thousands of survivors of abuse who have kept the secret for their perpetrator to protect them for 30 years or more. The writer is saying that it’s ok for a child, now an adult to have been abused and still silent so as not bringing to justice their perpetrator, that the ‘hurtful titbits’ as she so disregarding puts it are merely a bit of gossip that have got out of hand within a family… what planet is she on?
In the article, it seems to me that books written by survivors of abuse are being slated as untrue accounts that are exaggerated for point of sale, also that the survivor has only one objective to writing their memoir and that is to make money from a story. These are true accounts of terrible violations and experiences that as children they were subjected to and have kept secret like they were told. Why? Because they felt dirty, they felt like it was their fault and that they were in the wrong. They were not wrong, bad or dirty.
The writer of this article clearly lives in a gloriously protected world filled with hearts and flowers where there are pink fluffy rabbits running in daisy filled meadows. Happy memories you say, well actually if you ask any survivor of abuse what they remember about that time and they will tell you that at the time there were some happy times, the bits they grabbed for comfort and life as an abused child at the time feels ‘normal’. Normal is pretence; normal enables survival because they know no difference.
The reason these books are so popular? Just maybe statistics could be a little out and there are many more survivors of abuse and violation out there that maybe interested may need camaraderie and may need as an adult survivor to not feel alone anymore… Just maybe? What do you think? I cannot believe that someone would generalise this type of book as disgruntled adults that have had a bad time and want pay back. I cannot understand how anyone can attempt to justify any form of abuse unless they are an abuser.
The article states that ‘these books’ are seeking to make a few bob out of old abuse’ Old abuse! What! You think that once the touching, the rape, the violence, the years of being tortured and keeping the secret is over, it simply goes away?
Let me tell you it doesn’t, a survivor of abuse in childhood carries the belief they are worthless and inadequate into adulthood, thus unable to form healthy relationships, unable to be rational at times, unable to be free of the filth inflicted on them and the confusion of feeling guilty, taking responsibility for the blame they have had to carry because they dare to mention they were wronged. But most of all ‘us’ the survivors are aware that it exists, it is real not just a story. By telling the story, the once victim, now a survivor gives the story clarity and truth that has gone unsaid, it gives the story worth and by unleashing the awful truth the survivor is able to be free of it, put it in the past and use it positively to grow as a person and help others.
In the article it also mentions that, ‘these books’ on the shelves at home, in shops and in airports read by holiday makers are not acceptable reading for our children. That she says, in fact, by having these books on our bookshelves we are inflicting abuse on our children, the children the government feel the need to teach sex education to at 5yrs old to prevent teenage pregnancy. So, we don’t give that sort of information, we protect the children from reality from potential risk, we keep abuse a deep dark secret so if, God forbid, our children were approached by an abuser we have actually taught them that this violation is just an unsaid secret as the perpetrator will confirm as he/she whispers ‘this is our little secret’ is that what we do? Or do we make it known that unfortunately in our society there may be some bad people and we have to keep ourselves safe and tell someone we trust if something that doesn’t feel right is happening. Perhaps every parent should have a trusted person as an extra confidant, maybe it could be a good idea to make it clear to our children we are there for them and it’s safe to tell us anything.
These books are written from a place of compassion, from a place of passion and deep deep self discovery, so don’t slate them, don’t take away their clarity and don’t try to disregard these real human beings that have survived the worst of violation to a child, the betrayal of trust taking advantage of a venerable trusting child. These books have reason for being, to give insight and awareness to the very person who wrote the article because ‘what do you know?!’
by Louise at http://www.make-it-matter.co.uk/
Well said Louise
November 24th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
interesting reading carol (get a life), However I never did it for the money, I was already a getting by nicely as an individual, so money was not my objective here as I didn’t need it. The money I got for the book gets ploughed straight back into the work I do.
What do you do with your healthy sums of money you make from your articles?? I wrote my book to help other survivors and children going through it now, as we can’t rely on social services to help them. My book is to educate and like many survivors show them there is a way out, I will however tell you that I could of published my book five years ago, (when money was tight), however, I didn’t as the purpose of writing the book was not to make money, or I could of done it five years ago. I wrote the book to get known as an individual (a somebody) that could be listened too by governments and authorities who deal with children. I work hard for these kids and I may, now & again upset people by fighting for the children who suffer, maybe you should take hard look at yourself instead of judging others.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:48 am
Who knows maybe Carol was a victim of abuse and hasn’t felt able to verbalise her feelings?
As someone who has suffered at the hands of a step father with more than fatherly concern for me I can say the reason I read these books is that personally it makes me feel less alone; that others have suffered as I have, that the feelings you carry forward with you every day are normal. Every word of every book that I have read of this genre has helped me realise that I am not alone; that in fact I have been lucky in comparison with many.
Yes, I’m sure some have been elaborated but I know Joe personally, and every single day he fights against a system that lets children down. This isnt someone who has cashed in on his abuse and stepped away, this is someone who works tirelessly to help combat abuse.
Carol Sarler, although I dont know her personally, seems a rather sad individual who herself is “cashing in” on other peoples misery as Im sure she was paid quite a healthy sum for her article!
November 25th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
What a charming woman Carol Sarler seems! I can not believe what she has written. How dare she refer to the readers of these heart moving true stories as “plain Grubby”. I am a respectable, loving hard working person, how dare she!Let me tell you Joe, you and all other authors of their books, you are better people than she will ever be! you keep telling yourselves that, you deserve to.I am a funeral director, i am not a sick minded person, I am proud of what I do and thanks to my career it reminds me daily of what life is about. Maybe Carol should write an article on how the funeral director that has the job of caring for Baby P feels when he see’s his poor little face? I don’t think any of us reading what she has to say need worry or get upset over her, it say’s it all, she writes for the guardian ( full of bloody snobs ).
November 26th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Its not porn, its education. If Carol thinks its porn, then maybe she is a paedofile! The more that people understand what does go on behind some closed doors, the more they can help. If only the social services and police did more to help these poor children who are being abused by the very people that should protect them. Still today it goes on, look at Baby P. One important thing to remember is that the Baby P story has touched many hearts, and made lots of people realise that the social services do let these children down, even today! Its incredible that these poor children are taking back to their terrible abusing families and then beaten to near death as soon as the social services or police leave the house. Joe Peters story is heartbreaking, but real, it needs to be told, its education, lets hope the all of the police, social services, teachers etc etc all read it. Joe is an amazing person, and now he uses his experience and the revenue from the books to help others, how incredible is that, what a wonderful human being. I would be very happy to all of the authors to benefit financially, to be stinking rich, its no compensation for what they have had to survive, but I hope they make millions!Stupid cow, I bet she will be very embarassed about what she has written, she should think more carefully before she writes in future! Another way this book helps people is to think of life from a childs perspective, it helps me to be a better parent, to help me not loose my temper in front of my children, but to stay calm, as for a child to see their parent loose it, its frightening, i know. Joe, you will definatly go to heaven.
November 26th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
if she dont like them she dont have to read them! simple.
i work with children and these books were recommended by my tutor as it would give an insite on how some children suffer and how we as practitioners can try to help the children! obviously we are unable to help all children but we can do out best to understand and try our hardest to help. unless you have been abused yourself i dont think you can criticise the people who write these books! they are real people with feelings which shows throughout the book!
yes there are a lot of people out there who are good parents, but then there are also alot of terrible people out there too, and they should be outted, why should they get away with it. why cant they feel the shame that they made the children feel. i was abused by a family member but i was lucky as i had a lot of support from police, social workers and my close family. But reading books like this, one; shows me i am not alone at bein abused, two; helps me to understand that alot of people go through alot worse than me, and three; who the fuck does she think she is! her opinion means nothing x
November 26th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
what a heartless bitch she needs to take a good long hard look at herself!!! how dare she say its porn. journalists know nothing.
megan x
November 26th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Well well well… what a low life person she is…
So i take it Carol read the book?? She put herself in the same group of all us… “plain Grubby”…. I toally disagree with what she has said. I am so angry to write anymore words just cant discribe it.
November 26th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
carol you are just another definition for a paedophile.. you obvioulsy have a boring, miserable life that you feel the need to sneer at people like joe peters… i dread to think what you are saying about the incident with baby peter.. honestly carol grow up and act ur age…
November 26th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
The only thing I found ‘grubby’ and ‘abhorrent’ was this article. This woman has obviously had no experience of a difficult childhood. I am sorry to educate Ms Sarler but in my line of work there are upto 3 new cases of child abuse/neglect every week and that’s only in my region. These books are towers of strength to all of us readers who have lived a similar life. Why should the perpertrators have their say - they had their say with their fists all those years ago and now it’s time for survivors to have their’s. I find it quite upsetting that a person who has nothing to say like Ms Sarler gets paid loads of money and has the nerve to ridicule people who write the truth (not opinions) in a crusade to help others. Bless all those who have triumphed over horrific childhoods and had the courage to share their ordeal for the sake of others. Ms Sarler - give up your day job, do some research before you voice any opinions. A tip for you is you should always be able to back up your opinions with solid evidence - this prevents one from talking crap and offending innocent poeple. Would you Ms Sarler say the same about the horror movie industry or thriller books about murder? Maybe that interests you.
November 26th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
I think that it is quite clear that this woman has clearly never read a book like yours and understood what it is like to empathise with the subject of the book.it is not wrong to read true accounts like yours,it is wrong to damn it in the way that she has done in her article.this woman clearly hasnt got a heart and most definately doesnt have a conscience.i read this book and straight away went on to tell my friends at work, two of which read the book too.Since then we have discussed your story and in no way talked about it like it was of some pleasure,dont get me wrong it was a very good read but the subject of the conversations being how much we respect you and what you have been through,and most importantly what you are trying to achieve.
keep up the good work and please dont let narrow minded people like her to stop you from doing all the good work that you are doing.
November 27th, 2008 at 6:31 am
Well, I am bloody fuming! How dare you, you nasty, spiteful woman. Is it because you are not doing so well at work lately, needed to stir things up a little, get more sales, add a bit of controversy, get your name mentioned?? That’s the only reason I can think of Carol. I am a mum of two boys, I have read every book you have mentioned in your public slagging off of abused children\adults, please tell me, does that make me ‘grubby’? I don’t bloody think so! We the ‘grubby’ people feel for each and everyone of those people you so blatently disregarded as liars, they get told that most of their lives, that’s why their abusers get away with with it, that’s why they are scared to tell, and when finally they do tell, live through it all again to write a book and painfully bare their souls, trustingly let us in, they’ve got your load of crap thrown in their faces, you evil cow, i’m so mad i’m crying. You say these survivors ’seek to make a few bob out of old abuse.’ HOW NASTY CAN YOU GET CAROL? Actually, a couple of the books you mentioned weren’t even written by the survivor, they were written by the child’s carer, so a lot of research went into your article, obviously, for example, Hidden, one of the books you mentioned was written by the little boy’s foster carer Cathy Glass, she devoted 23 years of her life to bringing up these children,I bet you have made her feel ashamed about sharing her experiences with us, do you even care? I think not. The comment that got me the most C arol, was ‘perhaps one persons strict but fair, is another persons brutal’ oh, that’s ok then, a little boy ends up with a broken arm but it’s nothing to worry about, his parent was just being strict, but fair. Don’t make me laugh, you narrow minded cow! My god, I haven’t had a cigarette for a week but I need one now, is this the reaction you wanted to prevoke from people Carol, or are you just thick? How dare you slag these brave people off, they deserve your respect woman, not your critisism. Lastly, to my dear friend Joe, I’m so sorry you have had to read the total shit she has put, don’t you dare take in a word of it, you know how much we all love and respect you Joe, speak soon. x
November 27th, 2008 at 6:43 am
Hi Joe
How can she say this is part her acticle is just the ignorance that the people who write there accounts of there childhood dont need
Who does this COW think she is probably born with a silver spoon in her mouth does she not realise that not all children had a good upbringing were not loved by the very people that were supposed to be protecting them only to be abused by in some cases the very person that brought them into this world. This so called adult wants to be put into a room with people that have been abused and say to there faces ( this is porn ) lets see what out come becomes of her comments then
As nickie has commented she is ( cashing in ) on others misery may be she should make her self aware of what is going on around her maybe even her next door neighbour or even a family friend could be abused and she would never even know what would happen if she was to find out the truth would she then say ( this is porn )
Well carol all I can say to you is GET A GRIP and wake up to the truth of this world have you not read the story of baby p
you anser my question WAS THE STORY OF BABY P PORN I would love to meet you face to face god help you woman
I would like you carol to come with me and meet ( ceop ) and tell them its porn as I have said god help you you gutless bitch
November 27th, 2008 at 7:25 am
All i can say is that she is as bad as the people who have hurt these poor children… I bet the shoe would be on the other foot if it had happened to her.. Your book joe and others that i have read has opened my eyes and touched my heart in so many ways.. Carol needs to get a life and stop being a real BITCH.
November 27th, 2008 at 8:48 am
hi jo how can that journalist say those things. she is very lucky to have had a good childhood.your book and those similiar are true words.children who are helpless,abused and degraded.those things happened and are stil. take baby p.everyone in authority should have taken that extra step to try to save him. i cried when i heard.the journalist should see how you and many more have overcome so much and are doing something positive and rebuilding their lives after so much tragady
November 27th, 2008 at 8:54 am
I am amazed at your ignorance Carol. You seem to dismiss these stories of child abuse as ‘making it seem more commonplace than it is’. I’m sure that these abused children wish that was the case.
With cases like Baby P - This needs bringing to the public attention, If these books change (or save!) just one life then surely it is worth it?
If you don’t like them - don’t read them, simple as that.
I feel sorry for you - You are a very bitter woman.
November 27th, 2008 at 8:57 am
This is not porn it is something terrible that someone had to suffer throughout the childhood life behind closed doors.if u cant see that then u r a selfish and inconsiderstae cow for thinking it was a book about porn.
November 27th, 2008 at 8:58 am
I just wanted to say what an extremely shallow minded woman this Carol is. She needs to wake up and smell the coffee that not all children have the best upbringing. I cannot even begin to imagine what Joe and others have suffered at the hands of the people you are meant to love and trust but it does clearly does happen and more often than you think. As referred to as “porn”, Carol you are one sick lady. We need more people like Joe to stand up and be counted, the work he does is outstanding.
November 27th, 2008 at 9:23 am
What a very silly woman. If she chooses to read “The Lord of the rings”, or other reading materials, would others ridicule her choice? No. It is a petty minded person who chooses to criticise something she clearly knows little about.
I, as a reader am insulted by her comments, and I also feel disgusted that she appears to be brushing aside the terrible things that happened to the authors of these books.
I have read all the titles that she mentions in her article & many more, and I certainly do not feel that I am aiding the abuse to these people.
These books have been painstakingly written by people with an atrocious past. The terrors I have read about shock me to the very core. I feel that by reading these books, it makes you realise that this abuse STILL occurrs, in this country & others, down the road, or even next door to you. It gives an insight into how others suffer, yet emerge as strong, courageous, and incredibly usefull members of society (Joe Peters is a shining example to all of us.)
These people should be praised for their courage, not made to feel like peddelars of porn. I am disgusted with this so-called journalist.
November 27th, 2008 at 9:24 am
reading books such as joes shows the abused that there is life after abuse some people let it carry on because they are 2 scared or dunno the right thing to do. this carol person has no right at all to call people grubby for reading these books if these books wernt about for us 2 read carol then the world of abuse wouldnt be known and people and children would have to suffer in silence and do u think thats fair carol no it blommin well isnt i myself was abused as a child it went on for nearly 8 years by my stepfather i took myself to social services because my mother didnt believe me and neither did social services they told me to stop being a silly girl wanting attention its discusting and u have the nerve to call us all grubby if it wasnt 4 people like joe helping whoever he can off his own back to try and get ova abuse then the world would be a much darker place, reading these books are inspirational and i hope they carry on. so just watch ur words carol and think about what your saying in the future………
November 27th, 2008 at 9:48 am
im sorry to hear that carol feels the need to slate your book i am currently reading at the moment this women has got to much time on her hands and is in need of help her self if she can not understand how she is making victims of child abuse feel as a women she should know better everyone in the world should know what goes on behind closed doors i feel for you joe as to what has happened to you i have a little boy myself and donot know how anyone could be so evil as to hurt & abuse there children in any shape or form i totally support you & your book in everyway and wish you all the best in everything you do you must be a very strong person xxx
November 27th, 2008 at 10:06 am
How dare Carol Sarler judge me on the books I read,does she live in the real world or is it easier to bury her head to the wicked things that happen in the world.Whats betting that she lives a nice comfortable life,with no fear of mental,physical,and sexual abuse.Shame on you Carol Sarler
November 27th, 2008 at 10:11 am
I suspect this ignorant Woman has lived in a ‘bubble’ most of her life, how dare she insult not only the people who read these books, but also the people who have written them!!!!
Yes, the Books are far from easy reading, God Knows how much I cried reading ‘Cry Silent Tears’, I have also read ‘Ugly’, ‘Silent Sisters’ and ‘A Boy Called Dave’…not because I am “dangerously obsessive” or “plain grubby” but because I am truly interested to hear about other peoples lives, how they overcame the odds, and in the hope that these books can help bring home to others that these thing DO HAPPEN!!!
My God, how dare she….especially in light of the recent heartbreaking story of Baby P…in which case, does that make all us who read stories in the Newspapers, such as that of Baby P, (written by the likes of this narrow-minded Woman)”dangerously obsessive” or “plain grubby”…????
I also like to think that the Authors of these books find it therapeutic, telling their story, in their words, and maybe even helping themselves to find a little peace within after the terrible things they have had to cope with, things that the majority of us can’t even begin to imagine…
Maybe this Woman is just plain jealous as she secretly wants a Bestseller rather than writing biased, narrow-minded columns for crap Newspapers!!!!!
Joe, I have said this before and I’ll say it again, you are a remarkable Man, you work tirelessly to help other victims of abuse and the system, maybe she’d be happier if you’d gone the other way and turned to crime yourself, as many people who suffer like you did seem to do.
In a nutshell, I suggest this Woman gets her finger out of her backside, opens her eyes and tries to understand reality, as she’s obviously got some issues that need addressing!!!
Joe, I thank you for sharing your story with us, difficult as it must have been, I also can’t wait for your next book, being the ‘grubby’ person that I evidently am!!!
November 27th, 2008 at 10:39 am
I just want to say that no-one if forced to buy or read these books.Its a choice we have.
I chose to because although harrowing, I find them inspiring and that there are people out there who have had such suffering, and instead of wollowing they are trying to educate the ignorance that allows such suffering to continue.
In my opinion anyone that thinks that educating people of the fact that things like this do happen and is still happening is wrong, then i think they are the one’s that need educating the most!
Its ignorance that makes this world hostile.
November 27th, 2008 at 10:46 am
I cannot believe a journalist of all people(who will go to any lengths for a story whoever it affects)has the damn nerve to critacise something she knows nohing about.Yes i agree what happened in the book is disgusting at the hands of these abusers,and yes its a sickening read,but what would be better,to pretend things like this never happened or never existed.The harsh reality is that it happens all the time and if more people spoke out about things like this,then the more chance there is in helping such people.I think people really need to have their eyes opened to these situations.For this stupid woman to make these comments is beyond belief,i mean it would be ok to release a story about injuries to a child for example.I think for a journalist to make these comments is absolute hipocracy,especially the lenghts they go to to reveal some of the stuff they do,keep up the work joe and leave the idiot to her seedy newspaper reporting.
November 27th, 2008 at 10:49 am
This jorrnalist needs to wake up and step into reality,its about time the public learned the true nature of what happens to these poor innocent children,or should we do what she suggests and not read about it and bury our heads in the sand and pretent it dont happen.
November 27th, 2008 at 11:32 am
You ‘Carol’ are sick and so narrow minded! Even if guys like Joe that have lived through such hell as a child were just making abit of money for themselves then who are you to say that is wrong?? Do they not deserve abit of wealth and happiness as adults…..I say they do, they deserve every bit of happiness that comes there way after having what are supposed to be the ‘best’ times of their lives taken away from them! You write bollocks in papers everyday for abit of extra cash and some attention, these authors re-live their worse nightmares so they can raise awareness and get the message across to thousands of people to make sure that there is more understanding of the awful things that are going on behind closed doors, they work dammed hard and for that to be slated by the likes of you carol tells me that you are just a desperate, attention seeking, pathetic excuse for a journelist and a women! You have no right to slate something that you know nothing about and to insult these brave people for trying to help children who are going through the same thing as we speak! How do we know you are not guilty for something your’self seems you are so against this whole topic?? Im sorry but you should not have a job after this sick sick attack! You disgust me and im pretty sure several other people too!
November 27th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
I have to say this on here as i did comment on the link right after her piece. I buy these books because although i find it disturbing and upsetting, i also enjoy seeing how strong it has made the indivdual. I dont believe that those who suffered abuse do it for the money (and so what if they do) i believe that they do it to share their experiences. This is my opinion gives hope to those who have or are suffering at the hands of abusive adults. I have read almost all the books on the shelf about abuse and i will keep on reading them. No one forces anyone to read these books, as a post above says, its by choice that we readers do. I want to support those who have suffered and if i can do that by buying thier books and reading about their experiences then i will. It takes a strong person to share their secrets and i am proud that they do. They are an inspiration.
November 27th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
The only way i can describe this woman is that she is a “Heartless Bitch”. I cant believe she as called the abuse of a child misery porn. Get it in your thick brain that people like Joe and many others suffered horrible abuse and torture something that they will have to live with. If you call that misery porn then you must be fucked up in the head.Just because we read these sort of books it doesn’t make us bad people, it just means that we are interested in reading this heart warming stories of people who didnt have the strength back then to speak up and stand up for themselves,opening up people eyes as to what is out there. For them by writing these books have given them the strength to voice what they went through as children, to let others know that they arent alone and to give others courage to stand up for themselves, and that they shouldnt be suffering in silence. so carol why dont you think before you write such rubbish like this.
aarrrggghhhh makes me so angry how dare she!
whatever she says Joe you did the right thing keep it up
Jess x
November 27th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
what carol wrote is discusting! i read joe’s book not because its porn! or because im grubby! it is because it helped me realise im not alone! i too was abused as a child by my uncle and by reading silent tears it made me realise i wasnt the only 1 out there and the book shows how someone can come out at the end of horrible abuse and say ‘it was not my fault’ that to me shows the most couragous person and not some coward who has to hide behind vile stories that they write just to make abit of cash! you carol are one of the vile sick people on this earth!!
November 27th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Im truely horrified by what carol has wrote,these books are never to be called “porn”!, porn is something where consent is given and in these books that is so not the case.The authors in these books have suffered a great deal of abuse for many years where their abusers manage to beat the system time and time again .Its the abusers that need targeting.All these books are doing are making people aware of what goes on in many homes each and every day,and it proves that the authorities are still failing children! carol you really have no idea!
November 27th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
I feel that Carol is obviously a very small minded, shallow person; and is ‘grubby’ in her self for having no clue about what she is writing about. It is clear to me that she must be sick and twisted herself for thinking that these books are porn or any type of porn.
I pity this uneducated twatish woman for having no clue about what she is writing about.
From these books eyes are opened to what is truly out there, that the world is not a bed of roses as many like to think.
Carol you are a brainless mug.
November 27th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Hi joe, I fully agree with all that has been said by you and your supporters on your blog about that stupid small minded bitch carol. How dare she say the things she has about the people who have read your book i am not a grubby person and what i read bought me to tears. No child should go through what you did or any other child and to have that woman say that it’s lie’s or just done for the money is so disgusting. This woman who call’s herself a human should hang her head in shame. Well done joe with all your hard work and don’t let someone like carol get you down xxx
November 27th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Well, they do say that journilists are a breed of their own. The ignorance of the woman astounds me. For such articles to be published in the wake of poor ‘Baby P’ is cold, cruel and downright wrong. This woman may or may have children but I truly hope for their sake that she doesn’t. The authors mentioned, write their books to support others out there who have been through similar upbringings and I’m sure that in doing that it also helps them to continue to heal and exocise their own demons and for someone bring down and publicly trash them in the way this woman has is utterly inhumane. We should stand up and protect the children in our world like Joe and countless others are trying to do, as we all know that they are tomorrows world. I hope Carol gets to see all these moving messages and feels just as shit inside as all these children in the books did all those years ago.
November 27th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
I think CAROL is a fucking heartless Bitch and needs to have a life like any of the books she has slagged off then come back and write the article we would all really like to hear
hope you burn in hell
November 27th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
carol dosent deserve any mature words said about her,
Iv read all the books shes slagged off. I have two wordss for herr (maybe three but im sticking with the childhood lingo) PooPoo head.
I vote you give her this link. nobody likes being slagged off do they carol?
eh?
well, I feel reading books like that makes me aware, and it has a massive impact on the way I behave.
silly woman.
November 27th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Id also like to mention that she has an unfortunate name.
and now because of your stupid money-making (yes you ponse)article, most of the internet knows it
November 27th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
I am absolutely appalled by the comments made by Carol Sarler regarding the VICTIMS of Child Abuse & those who actually take an Interest in the Subject!
What Carol is basically saying is that people who have suffered Molestation & Child Abuse should not speak out????? Would she rather prefer that no-one ever discussed this Crime or its effects on people? Are we just supposed to pretend that it doesn’t exist or happen… Just sweep everything under the carpet & carry on as ‘Normal’.
She describes people’s trauma as ‘elicit entertainment’ but somehow I don’t think she would find it as entertaining if she were the Victim. These books are written to demonstrate the effects of Child Abuse & highlight the Issue of something that is clearly going on under everyone’s noses… Does she know that @ present approximately 1 in 5 Children under the age of 16 have been abused in some form or another?
This is a subject that people are clearly interested in, somewhat more than the pathetic, lame articles that she precedes in writing.
CAROL SARLER: YOU A DISGRACE TO SOCIETY LET ALONE THE PAPERS YOU WRITE FOR!
November 27th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
What a load of bollox how dare she comment on something she knows nothing about, Joe it was truly awful what happened to you and many others. things that are still happening right now as I type this, we all know it goes on but do we really know the extent of it……..no not without these brave people who decide to tell their stories, it is something that is absolutely awful to read but people need to know the actual things that go on it is something you can never make up and I say if one of these stories can help save another victim of abuse by us understanding the extent then its a job well done, keep em coming cant wait for your next one hun x x
November 28th, 2008 at 12:09 am
We need to ruin that heartless bitch’s career so that she can’t hurt or upset any1 else! Any1 willing?? xx
November 28th, 2008 at 9:57 am
I cannot believe the article I have just read by Carol Sarler. This woman is obviously not right in the head to suggest readers of such heart breaking books enjoy what they read. Its not about that at all. What it is about is supporting the author in their fight against their demons, giving ourselves knowledge which is in turn power on a subject still so taboo when in fact the more people that know the signs, understand how abuse can happen and can hopefully then notice if it happens to someone they know and also showing the abusers that they won’t remain secret and will be outed as they so rightly should. Anyone that commits any crime against children should be named and shamed and if writing a book is one way of doing it then so be it.
Carol Sarler you repluse me calling books like these porn, many couples enjoy stimuli thru soft porn and these books are absolutly nothing like that at all so for you to even suggest it makes me think you need to take a look hard look at yourself as there is obviously something very wrong with you!!
November 28th, 2008 at 10:46 am
I will not dignify your *article* with a response, miss sarler. However, I will leave u with some food for thought:
“English law allows actions for libel to be brought in the High Court for any published statements which are alleged to defame a named or identifiable individual or individuals in a manner which causes them loss in their trade or profession, or causes a reasonable person to think worse of him, her or them”
November 28th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Hi Joe.
First of all, I read your book recently and it was one of the most emotional books I have ever read. Joe, you are so brave to have come out of that experience a survivor. You are an inspiration to those other kids out there that are going through the same thing. What this Carol woman has said in her article is a disgrace, how dare she say these things not knowing the true heartache you have been through. She should think twice before she writes these things, she obviously doesn’t care who she hurts in the process. Joe, don’t ever listen to these things she has written, you have a lot of supporters out there, she doesn’t know what she is talking about, she is very ignorant!
Love and best wishes in everything you do,
Kind regards Liz xxxx
November 28th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
what the hell!! are you hiding something carol! to be as discustingly heartless, you are as bad as all the abusers we read about! so what do you think of the baby p case? are we all wrong for caring about the torture he went through and greiving for him??
i have been through alot of crap myself and you call such things for caring about what other people went through and finding comfort at not been alone!!
as for in it for the money!!!!….. how much do you print that is lies???
you cant go judging people. you just unloaded a whole loyt of judgement on yourself and it serves you right!! i hope this breaks you like the lifes you have broken!!
love and kisses xxx bitch
November 28th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
well lady! i must apologise fr myself and millions of others that do not lead a perfect pretty life like you must! its either that, or you turn a blind eye(or are completely sodding ignorant)towards what really goes on in the world! i dont know how you even DARE write the things that you have.i have alot of admiration for “the people” who write these books. if it wasnt for me reading these books, i wouldnt have the understanding that i have now, to how evil poeple really are! if anything, they have educated me on how many sick individuals(like yourself)there still are in the world. Did your mother never tell you….if you having nothing nice to say, then dont say it at all?!?!?!!? you must be a very sad individual to have said the things you have.
….to Joe and all of the other writers…ignore this woman, you guys will ALWAYS be better than people like her. You guys ROCK!!!! X X X X
November 28th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
I SIT HERE IN SILENCE AND UNBELIEF AFTER READING WHAT YOU WROTE CAROL AND I AM FEELING MANY THINGS. “VERY HURT” AND “UPSET”, “ANGRY”, “FUSTRATED”, “CONFUSED” AND I FEEL LIKE “THROWING UP”. WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING? WHERE THE HELL DO YOU THINK THIS STORY IS GOING TO LEAD YOU? TO FAME? MAYBE! BUT NOT THE KIND YOU WANT. MY FIRST BIG WORRY IS THAT YOU ARE A MUM…..WHY YOU MAY ASK? WELL NO ONE PERSON IS EXCEMPT IN THIS WORLD FROM ABUSE, NOT YOU, NOT ME,NOT THE RICH, NOT THE POOR, NOT THE SINGLE PARENT FAMILY OR THE TWO PARENT FAMILY, AND NOT YOUR CHILDREN OR FUTURE GRANDCHILDREN. AS YOUR KIDS GROW THEY WILL MEET NEW PEOPLE,GET MARRIED,BRING STRANGERS INTO YOUR HOME WHO WILL BECOME FAMILY MEMBERS AND WHAT WILL YOU KNOW ABOUT THEM? WHAT THEY TELL YOU!ONE OF THE TRUEST SAYINGS I HAVE EVER HEARD IS” YOU CAN NEVER TRULY KNOW ANYONE BUT YOURSELF”. YOU MAY THINK YOU KNOW YOUR HUSBAND, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR PARENTS, YOUR SIBLINGS, YOUR BOSS, YOUR FRIEND EVEN YOUR VICAR OR PRIEST. BUT IF THEY WERE TO ASK YOU WHAT THEY WERE THINKING RIGHT NOW! WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? YOU WOULDN’T HAVE A CLUE. SO MY POINT IS, IF (AND I HOPE TO GOD IT NEVER DOES)HAPPEN TO A CHILD IN YOUR FAMILY, WHAT WILL YOU SAY THEN? HOW DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD FEEL IF THEY READ WHAT YOU WROTE? WOULD YOU DISOWN THAT CHILD BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE RIGHT? OR WOULD YOU SUPPORT THEM AND WANT THE ABUSER TO HANG? AND IM SURE YOU ARE NOT THAT NIEVE TO THINK ” IT WONT HAPPEN TO ME”. COP ON GET A REAL JOB BECAUSE YOU ARE CRAP AT THIS ONE.I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW DID YOU BUY AND READ ALL OF THE NOVELS YOU ARE SLAYING, OR DID YOU JUST READ THE BACK IN A SHOP AND DECIDE TO TRY AND BELITTLE THESE SURVIVORS? WELL LET ME TELL YOU GIRL, LONG AFTER YOU ARE FORGOTTEN IN YOUR TEMPORY LIME LIGHT WHERE YOU ARE MAKING A COMPLETE SHOW OF YOURSELF, PEOPLE LIKE”JOE PETERS” “MARTHA LONG” “SEAN HOGAN” AND MANY OTHERS WILL CONTINUE TO SURVIVE AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE.NOW THAT IS MY LOT, I WONT WASTE ANOTHER BREATH ON YOU AS I HAVE CHILDREN WHO RELY ON THEIR MUM TO KEEP THEM SAFE. PITY YOURS ARENT IN THE SAME BOTH. DO YOU REALLY KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING AFTER THEM WHILE YOU GO OUT TO WORK TO WRITE TRASH? THINK ABOUT THAT!
November 28th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
HEY JOE WALK TALL…YOU ARE AMAZING…YOU ARE WORTH TEN OF HER ANY DAY…YOUR CHILDREN ARE VERY HAPPY AND CONTENTED AND HAVING A DAD LIKE YOU MUST FEEL LIKE THEY KEEP WINNING THE LOTTO EVERY DAY. HUG AND KISSES TO YOU, MICHELLE AND YOUR FIVE WONDERFUL CHILDREN.XXXXXXX
November 28th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
hi joe, i have left a message before on this site i have read most of ur first book but i borrowed it so i went out and bought it so i can read it again it was moving and captured my heart. but to have some one tell you that ur book and ur fans are grubby n like porn is a disgrace u are a inspiration to us all and have a beutiful family so u hold ur head up high n dont listen to what others say.
im behind u all the way as all of ur other fans r too im sure love n take care sam xxx
November 28th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Hi
I started your book this morning and finished it this evening, I have never read a book that i wanted to stop reading so much but couldn’t because that would be pretending that these things do not happen. It was the most powerful book that i have ever read.
November 29th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
I am actually in the middle of reading “cry silent tears”. Over the last twelve months i have read many books concerning child abuse that have been written by the author. Although their experiences have been heart wrentching i have found these victims to be truly inspirational people who had the courage to fight back against the evil pepetrators of their misery. They have the right to speak out and let the world and his wife know just how they suffered, it could also help those who are suffering in silence. I know for a fact that the David Pelzar book was an inspiration to one of the authors of their book. Maybe Sarler should try her hand at getting a job that is worthwhile and constructive like working with victims of child abuse, and understanding the sheer misery that they have suffered rather than doling out offensive nasty tripe that i personally would not pay her in tap-washers!!! GOOD ON YOU JOE AND TO ALL THE OTHERS WHO HAVE BRAVELY STEPPED FORWARD AND TOLD US ALL OF THEIR PLIGHTS.
November 29th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Hi joe, if you have this bitch’s personal address please send this to her!
carol,
how dare you insult all those people who had to put up with such a horrible upbringing! They must be mentally the strongest people you will ever hear of to get through with such an ordeal! You cant say anything until you have experienced it yourself. For myself, i dont know what thats like so i can only sympathise. but at least i have the courtesy to support such issues. Joe, plus others mentioned are an inspiration. They’ve helped raised awareness which IS very important. I have no doubt in saying that there are kids out there suffering now and social services are so effing blind they wouldnt be able to see a suffering kid if the issue slapped them in the face. And no im not a “grubby person” looking for porn! I am a well respected young person just wanting to read something that would really help me to understand that life is not perfect for everyone. Not even you carol, can say that every aspect of your life was pefect and you never had anything you wished never happend or wished you had a better and just imagine how hard those times were for you and then put it in perspective with joe for example. Then you can shut your big fat mouth and think about what you are saying. open your eyes and shut your mouth love!
bitch…hahaha. best of luck for the future joe! xxxx
November 30th, 2008 at 12:50 am
To be honest Associated Newspapers always seems to latch on to a theme and then milk it for as long as they think they can get a reaction; David Sexton of the Evening Standard (same company) published another article called “Get A Life You Lovers of Misery Memoirs”, all brought about by Constance Briscoe’s mother attacking her books. Shame there’s at least one document from the time corroborating her daughter’s version of events. I can only assume neither journalist had been through CSA or knew any victims, or maybe they do but have got money to make in tough times.
As far as I’m concerned I read these books to compare notes with people who have been through similar and in most cases much more serious degrees of abuse than indecent assault, and a book is the best way to do this without personally disturbing someone who might just want to get on with their life. However as well as books like Joe’s I also read “Burnt” By Ian Colquhoun, about a man who lost his legs, and Richard McCann’s books about having his mother murdered by the Yorkshire Ripper - no direct connection to CSA but an equal degree of inspiration.
Sarler and Sexton are both doing a pretty good impression of society when it comes to child abuse victims - once you’re 18, tough luck and people stop caring, right when you’re articluate enough to ask for help.
On another note glad to see just as many women as men taking issue with what these idiot journos are spouting!
November 30th, 2008 at 10:46 am
I read “Cry Silent Tears” By Joe peters yesterday and hardly slept a wink all night thinking of not just what he but certainly many others are still going through right now at the hands of paedophiles in the UK and worldwide today.
The biggest shock for me was how Joes own mother could not just let this happen buit also partake in it and yet Sarler “feels sorry” for the parents of these kids? Well if the devil does not only live in these people who abuse children but in you too, how could anyone refer to what Joe went through in his book as “old abuse” to make a bob out of? You think he just moved on and forgot about it do you carol? Well, your every bit as disgusting as the abusers and must think along their lines regards to where these victims stand in this society.
These books are good reads in many ways, eye openers for real people who care enough to take time to sit down and read them, worry about them, pray for them and lose sleep over them. I wonder do you have kids? What would you do if one of them was subjected to even 5 minutes of ehat Joe went through? Would you write about that in your column? Or would you give them a bath and forget about it? I believe you will one day eat your words. These people are telling the truth to help themselves and as joe is doing helping others which to me is great, he could be a drug addicted paedophile but hes not, hes a family man helping others who have experienced what he has, and for you to write what you did about him was wrong, I cannot imagine you have many friends with the opinions you have because there are not many people who would take the side of paedophiles in todays society but I guess for some reason, YOU DO!!!
God bless you Joe & all your good works, feel free to email me.
Michelle.x
November 30th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
if she recons people are attracted to misery porn that means she is one of them as she red the books to make such comments
and maybe she has an issue with her job as not having any succes so decided to pick on others that after such a long time have the courage to share what they have gone through so us the readers can read the signs in our own families to make sure that will not happen
i would personally ignore her comments and keep on; in this sick world things happen and we cant do anything about it….or we shouldnt in her words we should just hide that for no one else to know…well i disagree keep your heart strong and believe that you speaking out will help others!!!!!!!
November 30th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
hi joe…silly ole cow is not even worth listening too.her nose is so far up her own shitty arse an she probably thinks her own shit dont stink,and to even say it was porn..oh my god,sounds to me she has very sick thoughts herself,to even use a word like that when it comes to these people opening there hearts up about the real abuse they had to put up with as small children..theres not enough justice in this world,
December 1st, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Hi Joe,,,,,I have just finished reading your book, and it is one of many auto’s that I have read. And none of them are grubby or pornographic. And I am not going to even sink as low as Carol, she is the lowest of the low and not worth wasting time and energy on. I came from a broken home, and my sister and I were forunate to be old enough when our step-father made suggestions to be able to refuse and walk away. It makes me want to cry when I have read these books and then rant and rave at the so called care workers in this country, why do they take a job if they are not committed to do the job properly. My admin job, if I didn’t do it right I would loose it, anyone else in other professions would as well. Why do they employee people (or enough) who don’t care. Keep it up Joe, you are a hero x
December 9th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
how dare this women say such things about u or the people who read them isnt she in the same class as us that read them as she must have read it herself to know wot it is about i quess she will be saying the same about eastenders and anyone who watching it at the moment the whole of england must be grubby and in to porn for watching eastenders with the whitney an tony story line reading these book show people wot goes on in the real world and with maybe reading them we can ourselfs look out or see any signs that can help another child not go threw wot is happening every day joe your an inspiring man and i can not wait to read your next book. id love to see this women get sacked for writing something like that clearly like the social worker in the baby p case they are ignorant and just ignore what goes on out in the world
December 14th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Hi Joe
I’m disgusted at the comments of this so called journalist.
What would she know about the endless and silent suffering these people through and are still going through.
U just can’t brush things like this under the carpet and i’m delighted that many people have had the strength to speak up.
we were not put on this earth to have people abuse us, we are human. Journalists like her should be struck off as they do not deserve to have such skills as a writer.
Good luck to u joe and may all these people who have suffered get some comfort in the support we give them.
December 17th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Hi Joe,
I just bought your book at the airport on Sunday and finished it last night. You are a true inspiration to thousands of young (and old) people like myself who have been abused in the past, although I never had to suffer anything quite like you did. You have stirred my emotions and have made me truly think about the kids that suffer at the hands of their supposed family. May I wish you and your family every success and happiness that you could possibly have, God knows you deserve it more than most people. You are a true inspiration and the world would be a better place if there were more people like you in it. You truly are a caring, string hearted man and you are a credit to yourself and you’re family xx
December 24th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
i read your book, it was both intreging and horrible to read.. not that it wasent good, it was just that i felt so angry and upset reading it, i cant even imagine the pain you had to go through, throughout the whole time i was reading this book i cried,them disgusting people that put you through that pain deserbve to go through even worse treatment! And the other thing that really got to me and annoyed me was the fact that the police diddent believe you, i would like to join the police, and i know if i did, i would never let anyone go back somewere or to someone who they felt unconftable. Truthaly your book is the only book i have ever properlly read all the way through, it is just amazing. People like you are insperational to the outside world, and you deserbve ever little glimps of good in your life, you must be a wonderful father, and you kids must love you dearly aswell as your wife.. best wishe to you and your family. have a wondeful christmas asweel.
December 27th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Hi Joe,
I have read your horrifying account of your childhood. I didn’t buy you book, it was lent to me by a friend, but for Carol Sarler to suggest that I would be titillated by the content, I felt sickened. ms.Sarler’s comments that people buy books like this to furnish a desire to enjoy an other’s misery is quite disturbing.
I had no idea how badly children were treated in this county. I am 45 and I have never read let alone seen such violence aimed at a child. I have to admit I have been lucky, but it should not fall to “luck” that a child can be put though such abuse or not.
I have always thought it was the media who made the stories about social services seem worse than they really are. I found the account of your contact with them shameful.
I now feel that they need to get their heads out from their own arses and look at what is going on here. We need to make it so that children can talk freely about what is happening to them with out feeling fear and shame. If we can remove the taboo of child abuse in the classroom and get the atmosphere of openness, maybe the abused child can be able to accuse the abuser without being called a liar and “troublesome”. Why is the child presenting with problems for goodness sake?
I am so glad that you have become the man who your father made. “Give me a boy to the age of five and I will show you the man.”
I was very pleased to read that you have become a loving father with a family that you deserve.
January 11th, 2009 at 4:34 am
and carol, i just looked your picture up in “the gaurdian”. ha, you’re an ugly cow as well. yep, your face matches your personality bitch. go back to your stupid newspaper stories you sad cow and leave the real writing to the superiors. shove that in your wanky column!
January 11th, 2009 at 4:48 am
joe, your book moved me to tears. im so sad for what you had to endure. you deserve happiness and im so glad you have found it at last. that sour faced woman who calls herself carol should be reported and sacked for her heartless and spiteful comments. lets hope no one ever turns to her for help. you are one truly inspirational man. bless you..
January 14th, 2009 at 6:22 am
SHOCKING! Carol writes with the devil’s pen and champions paedophiles by her poisonous diatribe.
Her ignorant and ill-informed words show a lack of understanding and knowledge and are no more than a ‘green light’ to those who relish violating vulnerable children.
She makes a mockery of the suffering of others and vilifies the memory of the thousands of children killed by people meant to care for them.
As if all this is not extreme enough, she pours scorn on those of us who survive and dare to speak out.
This clearly un-educated woman fails to comprehend that books such as Jo Peter’s, Silent Tears, not only inform and educate the public at large about what can and does go on in seemingly ordinary households, but also those with power to bring about change for the better.
It is a brave move to speak out and tell all and respect should be given to those who find the courage to do so.
I have read Jo’s book to compare with my own abusive past and it has given me comfort to know I am not alone, and indeed, as someone said earlier here, ‘fared quite well in comparison’
The choice of words and phrases that Carol has used in her ill-founded and defamatory article come from the gutter and belong in the bin where the editor of the Guardian should have put her copy when it arrived on his desk. Assuming it did of course. However because it is so out of touch one can’t help but wonder if this pathetic woman did not perhaps sneak it in somehow without approval? An apology is due Mr Editor!! And… please sack that unpleasant woman there’s plenty of better freelancers out there that you could use. Carol really does NOT fit in with the others, does not have their abilities, lowers the standard of your paper, so why keep her? Is it because she is cheap, or because she is not on a salary at all like a lot of freelancers?
Keep her, and realise, your paper is tarnished and will be boycotted by all who strive to bring about change for children who do not have a voice.
February 25th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Hi Joe,
I have Just finished reading your book and can I say I dont think I ever have or ever will cry as much as I did whilst reading the book.The love and respect you showed for you father was an oustanding portrait of just how much it is you loved him and visa versa!!! You are an inspiration to the many young children in this world that suffer from such an awful childhood and prove that there is a light at the end of every tunnel. I wont even comment on Carol Sarler because people like her do not deserve publicity. I would like to thank you so much for giving me the chance to read about your life and helping all people who have been a victim of abuse to find the light at the end of a dark tunnel.
Jacqueline Kenny xx
March 11th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
I would love to meet Sarler face to face to explain to her how her comments are most hurtful to a victim of child abuse. Joe`s book is indeed harrowing and is a very difficult book to read but his story and other stories of people who have been victims need to be told and not hidden away. Until people who have been abused stand up and cry out to the world that this has happened to them we can not find ways to learn how to detect and stop others from being harmed. I found the courage to stand up and say I had been abused after reading other peoples accounts of their horrific childhoods. I went to the police and the two men who hurt me repeatedly from the age of six were both jailed. By crying out I stoped these men from hurting other children and although it took me 30 years to pluck up the courage to do this I am very proud of myself. I am very greatful to Joe and others who write about their childhoods as I think of them as friend although I do not know them, they help to to feel I am not so alone.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
I have just finished reading ‘Cry Silent Tears’ and have shed my own tears. I’m angry at the way the system failed Joe time and time again, and now even more angry at the heartless, pompous, ignorant article that Ms Sarler saw fit to write. Words can’t express my fury and she has denigrated every suffering child from Baby P and before. Utterly, utterly heartless…..Ggggrrrrrr It’s thanks to people like her that abusers have been able to get away with their crimes and the poor kids have not been believed. Hang your head in shame you cow!!!
May 10th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Hi Joe, I’ve just read your book and found it a very difficult, heartbreaking one to read. As soon as I finished it and saw your web address and email, I just knew I had to contact you. I am so happy to know that you’ve married your soulmate and have 5 children of your own. I’ve married mine and have 4 wonderful children. Since reading your book I have learnt to leave the housework to listen and watch the children. I have been late for appointments because one of them is feeling worried about something and needs reassuring. Children need to be so cared for in order to know how to care for others. You are amazing and truly inspirational. I send you love and hope you are getting better. xxxxxx
May 16th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
I’ve just finished trying to read Cry Silent Tears. I’m sorry Joe I got half way through and couldn’t go any further as it was making me physically sick, I did however skip to the end to find you had survived and had a beautiful family. My heart truely goes out to you and anyone else that has been hurt in this way. Its hard to believe that in such an educated world monsters like these are still able to get away with this kind of torture and abuse. Thank you Joe for opening our eyes to this, you are such a strong man to open your heart in this way.
May 18th, 2009 at 7:54 am
What an fantastic story, i could not stop crying every page i read,about everything that had happended to Joe in his childhood and to be honest with you this has to be probelry the best book i have ever read yet.
Even my friends are asking me if they can borrow the book when im finished with it because they find it so interesting and so lots of my friends and family are staritng to read the book ‘Cry muself to sleep’.
Joe you should be proud how far you have comed to turn your life round and im very proud of you and the sroty that you have written about so keep on wrtting.
Good Luck in the future!!!
From Helen in Oxfordshire.
May 22nd, 2009 at 10:28 am
I hope she has the misfortune to suffer at the hands of an abuser and i don’t say that lightly. she needs to realise that the writing of books such as cry myself to sleep help others that are suffering to see they are not alone.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:01 am
Hi Joe,I have just finished reading your book . Cry Silent Tears.I am so touched by your courage and determination to survive such horrifics circumstances that you have come through.I admire you for all you are and what you have achieved.I was sickened by it all . I understand what you are saying to all the people in the world and i do hope they take heed.I don’t care foR the social services or most organised groups , as i have seen and experienced a lot of what they are about . Carol syler wants kicking into touch as there are so many like her who put children into danger rather than saving them .My sister experienced six terrible years fighting for custody of her two grandchildren and was constantly put through torture through the social services as too was my youngest son . His heart was broken when they dragged his three children from him while at school , through no fault of his own . He was with a girl who already had three children and they had three more togetheir . She was involved with peaodofiles and lesbians and gay people in turn allowing them to abuse her three eldest children , who were also taken into care .With the good strength and love , he finally won his three children back and has raised them on his own ever since . Im talking about 8 years or so now .The other children were awarded a lot of money but returned to the mothers clutches when they were old enough to make their own dicisions and she is now a grandmother . her youngest of the first three still being in care . He is a disruptive child and vowed never to return to her . She married a man in a wheelchair who has only one leg for reasons of her own and also helped her two older children spend the money they had been awarded.. The man who was at the top of the abusers was sent to prison .Seems to me that the abusers always win . Not fair on ordinary decent folk .Please reply, if you are well enough to do so . I would love to hear from you .It is a brave person who can reveal to the world the things that you have endured . Kindest Regard s Ann ..
June 9th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Hi,
I have just finished your book ‘Cry myself to sleep’. I have read both your books and have been inspired by both your fight to survive and also your courage to keep trying till it goes right for you.
This stupid cow Carol has probably never been ‘forced’ to do anything she does want to do and Mummy and Daddy have probably provided everything for her.
Well I have been ‘forced’ and believe me it’s not nice, but my experience was no where near as bad as what I have read about and I applaud you and everyone who has spoken up. I have never been able to, and probably never would be able to speak up. She needs to get a grip and step into the real world.
Ignorant bitch.
Keep up your hard work, it is appreciated by many.
Emma x
June 9th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
This Bitch needs a sock in her mouth. No child deserved to feel pain what is she on about she just talks too much rubbish. She does not have a heart for the little one’s well at least we both agree she is a BITCH! Your book opened up peopl’s eyes to the cruel world around us not only did you make us want to fight for children you also made us relize how special and precious they are and we need to save them before its too late.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
I have three questions for you Carol Sarler:
1)Have you ever experienced child abuse yourself? 2) For that matter, porn?
If not, how could you possibly know anything about either one? My cousin was abused by her father-I know I was a little girl at that time, but I saw something I wasn’t suppose to see and it scared me. I can’t even imagine putting myself in Joe’s place, I don’t think I would have survived - would you have? My sisters and brother were fortunate to have loving parents who loved us very much. Wondered if you have any kids of your own or are you incapable of love, compassion or just plain feelings for anything/anyone? If you don’t then I feel sorry for you, you just don’t know what you’re missing. The difference between you and Joe is that Joe has gone thru so much and instead of having all that hatred bottled up inside of him – he has put it to good use by helping others that are in the same situation he once was in! This guy has a right to write about it, especially if the system failed him!!! He’s giving this world much, much more then what this world has given to him all his life! What have you contributed???
The only person who truly loved him was his father – and no matter what his mom or brothers did or said to him – it’s probably the only thing they couldn’t take away from him, that ounce of love which stayed in his heart forever. What he said about his father in his book was out of anger for the situation he was in, but the love his father had for his son, might have been the very thing that gave Joe the strength to survive - it might have been the only thing Joe held on to all these years without realizing it!
I read the book and gave it to someone else to read - I thought it was beautifully written – Joe THANKS for sharing that with the world – Maria!
June 15th, 2009 at 4:21 am
When I read her article it made my blood boil,i honestly dont know who this woman thinks she is!! I started reading your book last night and i couldn’t put it down ive just finished reading it and its now 5:15am
you went through some horrific things and even when you really wanted too give up hope you carried on and in the end you pulled through and found happiness as a sufferer of mental illness due too suffering abuse as a child it gives me hope that you can be happy even after all the crap you get put through….id also like too say i am only 18 and was shocked too see how much you had been through at my age,i also used too self-harm but i have come through the other side and hope too help people with my experiences one day…you story is truely an inspiration too young survivors like me and people everywhere!! As for you carol your nothing but a stuck up bitch livin in your little naive bubble where everyone has the perfect life..NEWSFLASH they dont lovey..open your eyes and pull the pole out of your arse until then keep your disgusting opinions too yourself! x
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Carol Sarler is either a very sick or a very evil woman. She is as bad as the abusers. I hope she rots in hell!
June 28th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
OMG, What a nasty spiteful bitch! carol sarler should be ashamed to call herself a human-being. Joe, you have done a good thing. I swear that woman should be sacked or better still be made to see a child that has gone through abuse,(then again she would probably say that it was all a put on). She’s just as evil as the abusers. I have just finished reading your book Joe i couldnt put it down. Keep up the good work and dont let the bitch get you down x
July 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
My only thoughts can be that this woman(carol)cannot relate to anyone in the above mentioned books,and i can only say isn’t she the lucky one!Just because all these people(above mentioned authors),grow up and write a book,do you really think that will make that person forget the years of torment?.
You only have to live through something like abuse ,then you go on to realise there is not “ONE “day in the rest of your lifetime that those memories will not be inside your head!
Possibly,these authors are giving hope and courage to other victims,and that should not be discouraged!!!!!!!!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Anyone who does not think its a good thing to write about these terrible experiences to self heal and help others… like this Carol Saler twisted cow
..must be a pervert or evil ..because any normal person would want to hug you and be very proud of the way you not only survived.. but created a positive life for yourself you are an amazing angel Joe xx
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
The frustration of arrogant, ignorant pricks like her….GRR…well we can’t change them i suppose.